From the SF gate report:
Mayor Gavin Newsom has proposed prohibiting tobacco sales in pharmacies, including Walgreens and Rite Aid. The city’s public health chief said the proposal is modeled after rules in eight provinces in Canada but has not been tried anywhere in the United States.
Supervisor Chris Daly has proposed legislation that would vastly limit areas where people can smoke.
Gone would be smoking in all businesses and bars, which now make an exception for owner-operated ones.
Gone too would be lighting up in taxicabs and rental cars, city-owned vehicles, farmers’ markets, common areas of apartment buildings, tourist hotels, tobacco shops, charity bingo games, unenclosed dining areas, waiting areas such as lines at an ATM or movie theater, and anywhere within 20 feet of entrances to private, nonresidential buildings.
Mitch Katz, director of the Department of Public Health, said he strongly supports both measures – even if they are angering business owners who say it’s one more example of San Francisco City Hall overstepping its bounds.
“Tobacco remains the No. 1 cause of preventable death in the U.S. – period,” he said. “It’s government’s responsibility to protect people from obvious risks.”
To paraphrase a comment at the Reason blog, whose responsibility is it then to protect people from tyranny?
Indeed, it’s scary listening to these public-health fanatics. By their logic, speed limits should be lowered to 10 mph, burgers and cokes banned and motorcycles outlawed. Gambling and extreme sports ought to be banished from the face of the earth. And did I forget to mention unprotected sex?
Its a simple enough principle but some don’t get it. Costs and benefits are different for different people. An act that one person views as self-destructive is completely worth the risk to another.
As Jacob Sullum eloquently put it:
Maximizing health is not the same as maximizing happiness. The public health mission to minimize morbidity and mortality leaves no room for the possibility that someone might accept a shorter life span, or an increased risk of disease or injury, in exchange for more pleasure or less discomfort. Motorcyclists, rock climbers, and sky divers make that sort of decision all the time, and not all of them are ignorant of the relevant injury and fatality statistics. With lifestyle choices that pose longer-term risks, such as smoking and overeating, the dangers may be easier to ignore, but it is still possible for someone with a certain set of tastes and preferences to say, “Let me enjoy myself now; I’ll take my chances.” The assumption that such tradeoffs are unacceptable is the unspoken moral premise of public health. When the surgeon general declares that “every American needs to eat healthy food in healthy portions and be physically active every day,” where does that leave a guy who prefers to be fat if it means he can eat what he likes and relax in his spare time instead of looking for ways to burn calories?
It’s true that, as the anti-smoking activist William Cahan pointed out on a CNN talk show several years ago, “People who are making decisions for themselves don’t always come up with the right answer.” They don’t necessarily make tradeoffs between health and other values in an informed or carefully considered manner. Sometimes they regret their decisions. But they know their own tastes and preferences, and they have access to myriad pieces of local information about the relevant costs and benefits that no government regulator can possibly know. They will not always make good decisions, but on balance they will make better decisions, as measured by their own subsequent evaluations, than any third party deciding for them. Leaving aside the question of who is better positioned to decide whether a given pleasure is worth the risk associated with it, there is an inherent value to freedom: When it comes to how people feel about their lives, they may well prefer to make their own bad choices rather than have better ones imposed on them.
Now the smoking ban of course goes beyond nanny-statism. It is also about protecting other people from the risks of second-hand smoke. That’s a laudable intention and as a libertarian I have no quarrels with the underlying principle. But my point is this — how does preventing the sale of cigarettes from certain shops or preventing their use in private bars designated for smoking serve this goal? People who enter such a bar or restaurant usually do with the intention to smoke — those who do not can always choose not to enter.
And whats this about banning smoking in rental cars? Second-hand scent? WTF?
Ultimately, we must recognise these type of bans for what they are – an act of those who are pompous enough to believe others’ well-being is their business and deluded enough to think they are in a better position to make these value judgements than the individual involved. The result is a further expansion of government power in an era when the threat to civil liberties and personal freedom from such intrusions gets bigger every day.
And just so that no one ascribes imaginary motives – I have never smoked, do not ever intend to and hate the smell of second-hand smoke as much as any regular guy. (I do however believe in respecting others’ choices.)
(Hat-tip: Reason Hit and Run)


Eloquently put. We have a health minister here who has dedicated his tenure to ensuring that people don’t smoke or eat potato wafers. I had touched upon it in this post of mine
Cheers,
Quirky Indian
http://quirkyindian.wordpress.com
Yeah, I just can’t stand Ramadoss and his paternalistic attitude. As the AIIMS episode illustrated, he also has a pretty big ego. Now if he would only spend some time and solve some real problems…
But then, going through the nitty-gritties of improving public sanitation isn’t as cool as telling actors they shouldn’t smoke on screen!
People are getting madder by the day. Strange that they forget that force and freedom are opposite ideas. Whats it to him (the mayor) if people stuff themselves with a gallon of transfat and smoke a 1000 cigarettes a day!
Read the ET edit – All the world’s an absurdity – Crazy Tales From Here And There. Its a mad mad world indeed!
aristotlethegeek — Thanks for the link. Continuing on the theme of madness, read this.
[...] It will encourage the passage of nanny-state laws designed to compel people to stay healthy. [...]
[...] Also read: San Francisco may tighten smoking ban [...]
…. ok I smoke I admit it …. I know that in San Francisco that is cause to be publicly chastised but here is a thought.
Hey Gavin Fix….
…. The Homeless, Crime, Kids sleeping in cars, illegal drug use, 14 year olds being stabbed to death in the street, the ridicules number of obvious Asian brothels, domestic violence, childhood obesity, over crowded schools, the lack of parking, and same sex marriage….
Then worry about it if I stand outside and have a cigarette.
A ban from a person that cheats on his wife and is an admitted alcoholic and then he wants to pass moral judgments? WTF? Fix your own house before you decide to try and fix mine.
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Does this still allow my airway to get air while I sleep?
Those people are going to kill me before I get a drag from my ciggarette.
If I remember correctly this how the Holocaust got started.
And what a good party that was.
As far as restaurants bars and clubs are concerned, I think it is individual businesses that should be allowed to choose if they allow smoking or not, and there should be a provision given to businesses to make the transition so that both non-smoker and smoking customers can be accomodated. I myself have switched to an e-cig, so I dont have to worry about the bans. But I still think smoker’s and business owners rights should not be trampled on. The brand that I like has a lot of info about e-cigs in general on their website – thevapormaster.com